Star Wars > Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe > Star Wars Versus Forum > Vitiate vs ROTS Sidious. Vader = At best a threat to ROTS/ANH Sidious but vastly below him by ROTJ. Literally millions. Sidious's feats (at this point):-Defeated Yoda-Defeated Mace Windu-Assassinated Darth Plagues-Simultaneously defeated Maul and Savage Opress-Masked his dark nature from the Jedi Council for years Vitiate's feats:-Ripped the … Born in 5113 BBY as the illegitimate Sith son of Lord Dramath in the Old Sith Empire, Tenebrae carved a path of destruction across the … New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. In term's of raw power and skill Vitiate should be far greater than any other because of the simple fact that he's lived longer than any other before and after. Born to farmers on the planet Medriass in 5113 BBY, Tenebrae was always unnatural, having eyes as black as space and never displaying emotion. The Emperors showdown! Darth Sidious ruled the galaxy for decades and Vitiate ruled for over 1400 years. He's never used it in a fight. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! 0. Page 2 of 2 • 1, 2. As a side note, I don't know how much the whole "sever force" thing goes as far as someone like Sidious, but that's a thing that he was talented at. I'm rather unfamiliar with this but I've seen posts on the internet (most trusted place on earth clearly) that Revan's resistance to Vitiate was aided by the spirit of Meetra Surik. Both are at the peak . Rules. immortality: Vitiate needed to feed of the deaths of the 10,000 - 100,000 of people who died during the big battle at the end of the shadow of revan expansion meanwhile sidious could return whenever he wanted (though he did originally need some ancient sith to teach him how to do it). Follow 26473. At the mere age of six, Tenebrae developed Force powers and learned that his true father was the ruler of Medriass, Sith Lord … Yes, yes, yes. Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious on Fri 10 Jan 2020 - 11:29 It's almost as though I was referring to more than one person when I said "all have some pretty great feats". Yes, it sounds just like Sidious’ scheme, but the difference would be that we wouldn’t see it coming like we did with the OT and the PT. He is the immortal emperor, and despite it not being canon, I think he surpasses Sidious no question. Re: Valkorion vs Darth Sidious (ROTJ) on November 13th 2020, 12:21 pm. I just don't see how vitiate would win this without getting lucky. Revan, Malek, and the council aren't as strong as them. So if sidious uses tk at any point (bare in mind its the force ability he uses most except for lightening) vitiate is dead. Dec 14, 2019 #39 Murazor said: Sorry if I come across as too forceful. Personally from what i've seen of Sidious and what I've read of Vitiate I think there would be no contest. Share. Overall sidious is winning this if he gets in close vitiate has no chance, and even with the force he has a huge edge. The statement that many people fall back on when People argue against Sidious being the most … :D My Top 30 A.I. Regarding your point about there being 'perhaps' another circumatance as to Revan's seduction to the darkside in comparison to his later resistance. Divide that by 4 and you get 236,677,140 Seconds. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting. another good comparison is the fact vader instantly killed 12 people with a force push and we all know vader is nowhere near as powerful as sidious. Personally from what i've seen of Sidious and what I've read of Vitiate I think there would be no contest. Most people don't realize it, but Sidious was a lot more powerful than Vitiate ever was. By himself, he could not hope to defeat the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy had ever known. Scourge says in swtor vitiate tricked them into joining the ritual so he didn't dominate them all, Vitiate subdued Malak and Reven, incredible warriors nearly unmatched throughout the galaxy. Therefore, Valkorion is at least 236,677,140 times more powerful than Sidious. Close. Jan 8, 2020 #26 Ertwin said: As poor Mace Windu found out. In this video I am pitting Darth Sidious up against Darth Vitiate. [FP]=900 Anakin Skywalker (Full Potential) 2. Valkorion (like other SW EU villains) is much too mighty. The Emperor. Suspect Insight Forums :: Star Wars Versus. If vitiate was able to dominate or even effect sidious mentally at all why didnt he ever dominate anyone like meetra surik ,scourge (when he thought he had betrayed him) ,the hero of tython or any other playable character in swtor ,heck even kira as a padawan broke free form vitiates control in a few minutes and vitiate had a very strong connection to her. It creates so many plot holes if vitiate was that powerful with mental attacks. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. If you want to go that way he co-opted his master's (who, personally, was far more worthy in that he had almost achieved his own method of immortality before being killed in a drunken slumber. I doubt that 3 Yoda level characters are losing to ROTJ Sidious tbh. 11. KingofBlades. 356. Sith Archivist wrote: DARK LORD OF THE SITH wrote: Sith Archivist wrote:Valk wins. Probably Sidious, we have better combat feats for him. Say that Vitiate drained Ziost in 4 seconds. After killing his father at age 10 with only a thought, Tenebrae was mentored by Marka Ragnos and soon after granted the title of Sith Lord. telekinesis probably the most versatile and most useful and most commonly used force ability in star wars sidious outclasses vitiate with it. I guess to back what I'm saying here's Palpatine's RT: The Phantom Menace, Revenge of the Sith, Return of the Jedi, Dark Empire. Vitiate was overpowered to be honest. If he could he'd of done it to revan , the hero of tython or arcann, I made my own comment giving the reasons sidious woudl beat vitiate I'd happliy discuss it with you, I think that regardless of which version of Sidious it is, Vitiate still wins, I have to disagree. Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious. Showdown of Emperors, who is the master here... Don't forget to like the video and subscribe to see more content! He's also ridiculously fast. He's basically a one trick pony anyone who can resist his drain is powerful enough to kill him anyone who can't resist his drain obviously dies. We know Dooku's far, far below Sidious so you can't exactly assume that Dooku's beyond Plagueis's level. No other Darth Sidious Vs Valkorion threads should be made to avoid cluttering the forum with multiple similar threads. I wouldn’t mind someone surpassing them, but I’d want to see it done in a covert fashion that was built over multiple films. 2126. Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever to live. Sidious was stated to be the most powerful ever when he was around. Interesting. Level Six. Which of these two were more powerful? Vitiate/Valkorion is pretty much all of this too. … I hope it gets the attention it deserves. Level Four. Why do you think so? 3 years ago. Did you read, and Debunk Ant's explanation for the Revan vs Vitiate event. 6 years ago. Take it as you will. Was there one that was more dangerous? Who Wins? Forum Posts. already prepared plan of taking control of the republic... for a few decades, until his own incompetence as a ruler and master got him killed. 2. starkiller who vaporised 3 people with a quick burst of his lightening then vader goes ahead and tanks this far more powerful lightening from starkiller. 3 years ago. Close. Ewoks aren't stupid, their unsolicited aid on Endor helped ensure the Rebel's victory. DE Sidious Edit: I've just noticed the valk vs sheev thread @Azronger made is supposed to be the only thread on the subject so my apologies for adding another one. Only one of which was very powerful ,Jedi master Narezz one of the jedi on the strike team was injured by 3 small turrets on hoth Seriously look how small they are Sidious would easily make just as short work of them ass vitiate did. Sidious has quotes from multiple sources that put him as the most powerful Sith in all of history, plus quotes saying he mastered all force abilities, plus he's able to use force storm which is much more deadly than Vitiates planetary destruction. Vaelias. Luke is simply much more powerful than both Sidious and Vitiate, together SIdious and Vitiate might be roughly Abeloth's power, MAYBE. Vitiate = ~ TPM Sidious Valkorian = ~ TPM Sidious . Tenebrae, Valkorion. and then killed all nine members of his Dark Council. No other Darth Sidious Vs Valkorion threads should be made to avoid cluttering the forum with multiple similar threads. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Maul knew the truth, he understood what little everyone else did. Top 10 lists always come down to personal preference just like 'who is more powerful' debates. IG. Yoda = Nigh equal to ROTS Sidious. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. 8/14/2020. Revan isnt even on obi wans level and dooku made short work of him. At the mere age of six, Tenebrae developed Force powers and learned that his true … I wouldn't say absolutely evil... if only because being evil wasn't his end goal in and of itself. Over the next … Although I would still maintain that Vitiate is more powerful over all. Is there any Validity to that?Because if there is, then perhaps that is a possible observation of the situation and how he was able to resist. vitiate was stated to be the most powerful sith ever when he was around. Depending on how close to Plagueis, TPM Sidious is, Vitiate either loses to him or definitely to ROTS Sidious. lightsaber: sidious mastered every single lightsaber form he toyed with maul and savage (bare in mind maul mastered several lightsaber forms) held his own against yoda ,out dueled luke ect vitate is literally featless with a lightsaber and it doesnt even seem he has one as in the revan novel he never uses one and picks up revans when he's about to cut revan in half. Kun is … It's stated multiple times that Sidious is the most powerful Sith in history by multiple unbiased factual quotes, and not only does he have those, [he has the showings of power to back it up.] Only DE Sidious is beating Valk. A Dark Lord of the Sith in the Order of the Sith Lords, recorded by history as the most successful who had ever lived, his deeds resulted in overthrow the ancient Republic and the noble Jedi … Followers. I'm pretty sure you can find better feats for GL all around - in terms of speed, power, everything. Sidious has flown billions of lightyears in a few months. Match Up Monday. Posted by. Palps has a fresh clone body to work with. Darth Sidious ruled the galaxy for decades and Vitiate ruled for over 1400 years. Vitiate boosted his power using rituals, and sorcery but Sidious is far stronger with the force. Exar Kun = Capped below TPM Sidious. Basically The Emperor vs. Vitiate is mentally powerful,but Sidious is the defining member of his epoch. Was there one that was more dangerous? Vitiate subdued Malak and Reven, incredible warriors nearly unmatched throughout the galaxy, and then killed all nine members of his Dark Council, took out a strike team of some of the Order's most powerful Jedi. sigmatw Morally Grey. What do you guys think? Reviews: 0. What Sidious is it? Just almost entirely evil in that he was absolutely selfish. They are for fighting against … --Taken from The Complete Visual Dictionary, When Yoda crosses sabers with the movie's arch-villain, he doesn't launch into a pinwheeling display of acrobatics, as he did against Count Dooku in Episode II. Sure, there are quotes lying around that say that Sidious was the strongest Sith to ever live... the fact that they're all out of date by years should have made their value obviously lacking, and any that attempt use them foolish enough to ignore because the're obviously impartial. But first, he would need his own apprentice. Level Two. Valkorion would solo continents full of Sidious. then revan we don't know the circumstances of it or how revan was originally turned by vitiate but we know in the revan novel he is able to resist vitiate so either revan was far from his prime or there was some other circumstance like revan was weakened or vitiate had help in which case the feat isnt impressive enough to be usable in this discussion. Sidious is more powerful than Vitiate. the battle takes place on endor so all the little ewoks can get fried by stray lightning, Who takes this in a battle of the Emperors? Forum Posts. Don't get me wrong, Sidious is also incredibly formidable, but for the most part, not formidable enough. Sidious accomplished what the Sith wanted. this shows just how much more ridiculously powerful sidious lightening is than vitiates. So, yeah. Vitiate/Valkorion vs Sidious. We know he's pretty much always growing in power. (This doesn't change your analysis of the fight at all, I agree with all that stuff, this is just me musing on stuff). A good feats thread on Palpy and Vitiate. Sidious vs Vitiate STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > STAR WARS Discussion Sidious vs Vitiate Reply. Neither of which are even close to top tier force users. It also depends on how much power Vitiate gained in the like nine hundred years between the novel and the Nathema ritual. Posted by. Tenebrae. By their feats, Vitiate. Vitiate/Valkorion vs Sidious. Overpowering the will of a ton of strong force users is something, but he was defeated in a similar (but inferior) way like DE Sidious. Exar Kun = ROTJ Sidious Vitiate = ~ TPM Sidious Valkorian = ~ TPM Sidious . meanwhile sidious lightening was able to instantly kill an entire battalion of stormtroopers. As a side note, I don't know how much the whole "sever force" thing goes as far as someone like Sidious, but that's a thing that he was talented at. Take it as you will. No matter which of his many names you know him by, Lord Vitiate was one of the most powerful Force-sensitive beings to ever live. Vitiatewas the Emperor of the Sith for over a millennium during the Old Republic era, reconstructing it after the Great Hyperspace War. … Sidious has better feats, he's clearly faster(as shown by revan vs vitiate), and the notion vitiate can somehow end this before sabers become a factor is ridiculous. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. So yeah sidious is more powerful than vitiate. 0. Vitiate 25% . Wiki Points. They've both killed their fair share of planets, I think, but Vitiate managed to harness all the death and destruction on a planet full of Sith Lords to grant himself immortality. Sidious is more powerful than Vitiate. On a tangent, where does Darth Nihilus fit into the powerscale of famous Sith asskickers? get reddit premium. Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious on Fri 10 Jan 2020 - 11:29 It's almost as though I was referring to more than one person when I said "all have some pretty great feats". I hold RotJ Sidious at Exar Kun level and Valk is comfortably above Kun. Poll Grandmaster Yoda Vs. Emperor Vitiate (51 votes) Yoda 75% . Page 1 of 58: 1: 2 3: 11: 51 > Last » Shokzman: 02.15.2012 , 11:48 PM | #1: Quote. 3 Germanicus. "Rob Coleman wanted Yoda to feel the power of his enemy," says Wheless, "like a force he's never dealt with before." Sith Emperor. Re: Valkorion vs Darth Sidious (ROTJ) on November 13th 2020, 12:21 pm. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Disney Canon Respect Threads 5 Legends/EU Respect Threads 6 Others 7 References Emperor Sheev Palpatine, secretly the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Sidious, was the last Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic, the first and only emperor of the Galactic Empire, and arguably the most powerful Sith Lord in the galaxy's history. Follow 3700. Force Power Users - Ranking: 1. I think vitiate would easily dominate Sidious before turning him into a mindless puppet. Match Up Monday. Simple. level 1 Basically The Emperor vs. Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever to live. Vitiate has, among other things, been referred to as the "most powerful force user in the mythos,". By the way: it was Darth Tenebrous. Tenebraethe Sith Lord Darth Vitiate who was known to his reconstituted Sith Empire as the Sith Emperor and to his Eternal Empire as Valkorionwas an ancient dark side entity of enormous power who manipulated galactic affairs for 1,500 years. Wiki Points. “Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history.” --Taken from The New Essential Chronology “"The Rebels were turning out to be more troublesome than many had expected. Green Lantern simply has better feats than Sidious. The entire point of the Rule of 2 is that Sidious is supposed to be far, far more powerful than the old Sith because it's been an unbroken chain of student surpassing master, so I can see where that's coming from. Born to farmers on the planet Medriass in 5113 BBY, Tenebraewas always unnatural, having eyes as black as space and never displaying emotion. Without them, we'd all be speaking German right now. watch here you see several non force users get right back up with no signs of injury for those on mobile go to 1:11:41 .meanwhile in the lords of the sith novel sidious (while holding back) casually crushs a heavy fighter with the force (bare in mind just its shields were far to strong for infantry missiles to damage). Vitiate = Capped below TPM Sidious. mental attacks: doesn't matter who has the advantage neither are going to be able to do anything to the other mentally as they are both to strong. Forum Posts. neither will just stand there while the other prepares a ritual. It's highly unlikely that Sidious just Vitiate reincarnate, but it would be a neat explanation. Though none have ever effectively used the ability on anyone of any not despite them both having plenty of opportunities to so neither would be able to drain the other. You are indeed where you belong. (http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/3526018-2721837233-26681.jpg) Anyone who tells you Vitiate is stronger is someone who's knowledge on Sidious isn't very large. I always see top 10 dark side users lists and such and most of the time, people say Sidious is #1, is he really more powerful than the Immortal Emperor? You can comment on aptitude in a particular area of the Force, but unless you have a way of objectively measuring their abilities, it just turns into a popularity contest. ... Lord Vitiate vs. Darth Sidious (self.whowouldwin) submitted 5 years ago by Rambo7112. deactivated-5ac4e862bd47b. Archived . Followers. 3 Lord Vitiate. EU i feel the movie sidious didn't show the power he could. Some potential starting points of discussion: Tenebrae at 13 years of age, just before meeting Marka Ragnos. Vaelias. Darth Sidious was the fulfillment of that prophecy, capable of exacting the Sith's revenge on the Jedi for having nearly eradicated the practitioners of … Showdown of Emperors, who is the master here... Don't forget to like the video and subscribe to see more content! Any updated opinions or new insights should be posted here. Sidious is the more "realistic" version. Vitiate has nuked a galaxy. So comparing Talzin to a Mortis being when she was barely Sidious level seems pointless no? I think that regardless of which version of Sidious it is, Vitiate still wins. Star Wars is an American epic space opera franchise, created by George Lucas and centered around a film series that began with the eponymous 1977 movie. He wouldn't even need the force to kill him. Why do you think so? As much as I love SW legends, I personally hate Vitiate because he is just a blatant, lazy copy of Sidious. Only DE Sidious is beating Valk. Palpatine corrupted the entire Jedi Order, blitzed three high level Jedi Masters, defeated Yoda, defeated Galen as soon as he got serious, subdued Vader multiple times, defeated Dark Empire Luke, and could've beat Windu with his force lightning. Which of these two were more powerful? Id say it's objectively right to say Sidious is stronger. Sidious is also more powerful, period, so his victory seems assured, here. Press J to jump to the feed. (edited … Sidious has enormous Force knowledge and mastery of his own to counter Vitiate's,and the basic combat falls squarely in Papa Palpy's favor. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, several get hit but none collapse till 2:47 when he hits them a second time, Seriously look how small they are and they are standard turrets yet she was powerful engouh to survive a blast of vitiate lightening, starkiller who vaporised 3 people with a quick burst of his lightening, far more powerful lightening from starkiller, watch here you see several non force users get right back up with no signs of injury for those on mobile go to 1:11:41, scourge tells the hero of tython that vitiate tricked those sith into performing the ritual that killed them, I made my own comment giving the reasons sidious woudl beat vitiate. Because sidious did what they could not, and you highly underestimate the power of sidious. The Emperor. Vs. Sidious as of ROTJ. Well due to the ambiguity of whether or not Vitiate … needless to say if at any point sidious gets close enough to use his saber vitate is dead. He does ridiculously crazy shit in the EU, and has knowledge of things Vitiate/Valkorion has never even thought about. rituals: i'll give vitiate the edge here wont bother explaining why as rituals are useless in a 1v1 because they require multiple people and/or a lot of time to perform. Sidious needs/uses technology to kill planets. Vitiate could be MVP or he could lose to both depending upon the above. this also explains why neither have ever used a ritual mid fight. DE Palpatine/Darth Sidious Respect Thread By ShootingNova December 25, 2014 69 Comments My final Palpatine respect thread, the final part of my series of Darth Sidious respect threads. Ergo, Sidious's dueling feats still translate to his combative Force mastery, which far exceeds that of Vitiate. He beat or contented with the very best force users in history. NotAA3 . This is the Battle of the Emperors. Ultimately it doesn't change to much in my view. Palpatine came back from the dead with every single known and unknown force talent, could summon force space storms and numb the minds of a planet. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/3526018-2721837233-26681.jpg. Regardless, Luke … Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious. Lord Vitiate at 113 years of age, prior to consuming Medriaas. Vs. Sidious as of ROTJ. The … It's stated multiple times that Sidious is the most powerful Sith in history by multiple unbiased factual quotes, and not only does he have those, [he has the showings of power to back it up.] 0. Follow 5311. He is the ruler of two Empires and uses the Force to annihilate planets. I think Vitiate wins. NewGuy01. Dark Lord. Both canon and Legends feats applyBattle takes place on neutral ground Can Vitiate win, or surpass Sidious with his KOTFE fea Wiki Points. 0. 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Star Wars > Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe > Star Wars Versus Forum > Vitiate vs ROTS Sidious. Vader = At best a threat to ROTS/ANH Sidious but vastly below him by ROTJ. Literally millions. Sidious's feats (at this point):-Defeated Yoda-Defeated Mace Windu-Assassinated Darth Plagues-Simultaneously defeated Maul and Savage Opress-Masked his dark nature from the Jedi Council for years Vitiate's feats:-Ripped the … Born in 5113 BBY as the illegitimate Sith son of Lord Dramath in the Old Sith Empire, Tenebrae carved a path of destruction across the … New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. In term's of raw power and skill Vitiate should be far greater than any other because of the simple fact that he's lived longer than any other before and after. Born to farmers on the planet Medriass in 5113 BBY, Tenebrae was always unnatural, having eyes as black as space and never displaying emotion. The Emperors showdown! Darth Sidious ruled the galaxy for decades and Vitiate ruled for over 1400 years. He's never used it in a fight. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! 0. Page 2 of 2 • 1, 2. As a side note, I don't know how much the whole "sever force" thing goes as far as someone like Sidious, but that's a thing that he was talented at. I'm rather unfamiliar with this but I've seen posts on the internet (most trusted place on earth clearly) that Revan's resistance to Vitiate was aided by the spirit of Meetra Surik. Both are at the peak . Rules. immortality: Vitiate needed to feed of the deaths of the 10,000 - 100,000 of people who died during the big battle at the end of the shadow of revan expansion meanwhile sidious could return whenever he wanted (though he did originally need some ancient sith to teach him how to do it). Follow 26473. At the mere age of six, Tenebrae developed Force powers and learned that his true father was the ruler of Medriass, Sith Lord … Yes, yes, yes. Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious on Fri 10 Jan 2020 - 11:29 It's almost as though I was referring to more than one person when I said "all have some pretty great feats". Yes, it sounds just like Sidious’ scheme, but the difference would be that we wouldn’t see it coming like we did with the OT and the PT. He is the immortal emperor, and despite it not being canon, I think he surpasses Sidious no question. Re: Valkorion vs Darth Sidious (ROTJ) on November 13th 2020, 12:21 pm. I just don't see how vitiate would win this without getting lucky. Revan, Malek, and the council aren't as strong as them. So if sidious uses tk at any point (bare in mind its the force ability he uses most except for lightening) vitiate is dead. Dec 14, 2019 #39 Murazor said: Sorry if I come across as too forceful. Personally from what i've seen of Sidious and what I've read of Vitiate I think there would be no contest. Share. Overall sidious is winning this if he gets in close vitiate has no chance, and even with the force he has a huge edge. The statement that many people fall back on when People argue against Sidious being the most … :D My Top 30 A.I. Regarding your point about there being 'perhaps' another circumatance as to Revan's seduction to the darkside in comparison to his later resistance. Divide that by 4 and you get 236,677,140 Seconds. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting. another good comparison is the fact vader instantly killed 12 people with a force push and we all know vader is nowhere near as powerful as sidious. Personally from what i've seen of Sidious and what I've read of Vitiate I think there would be no contest. Most people don't realize it, but Sidious was a lot more powerful than Vitiate ever was. By himself, he could not hope to defeat the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy had ever known. Scourge says in swtor vitiate tricked them into joining the ritual so he didn't dominate them all, Vitiate subdued Malak and Reven, incredible warriors nearly unmatched throughout the galaxy. Therefore, Valkorion is at least 236,677,140 times more powerful than Sidious. Close. Jan 8, 2020 #26 Ertwin said: As poor Mace Windu found out. In this video I am pitting Darth Sidious up against Darth Vitiate. [FP]=900 Anakin Skywalker (Full Potential) 2. Valkorion (like other SW EU villains) is much too mighty. The Emperor. Suspect Insight Forums :: Star Wars Versus. If vitiate was able to dominate or even effect sidious mentally at all why didnt he ever dominate anyone like meetra surik ,scourge (when he thought he had betrayed him) ,the hero of tython or any other playable character in swtor ,heck even kira as a padawan broke free form vitiates control in a few minutes and vitiate had a very strong connection to her. It creates so many plot holes if vitiate was that powerful with mental attacks. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. If you want to go that way he co-opted his master's (who, personally, was far more worthy in that he had almost achieved his own method of immortality before being killed in a drunken slumber. I doubt that 3 Yoda level characters are losing to ROTJ Sidious tbh. 11. KingofBlades. 356. Sith Archivist wrote: DARK LORD OF THE SITH wrote: Sith Archivist wrote:Valk wins. Probably Sidious, we have better combat feats for him. Say that Vitiate drained Ziost in 4 seconds. After killing his father at age 10 with only a thought, Tenebrae was mentored by Marka Ragnos and soon after granted the title of Sith Lord. telekinesis probably the most versatile and most useful and most commonly used force ability in star wars sidious outclasses vitiate with it. I guess to back what I'm saying here's Palpatine's RT: The Phantom Menace, Revenge of the Sith, Return of the Jedi, Dark Empire. Vitiate was overpowered to be honest. If he could he'd of done it to revan , the hero of tython or arcann, I made my own comment giving the reasons sidious woudl beat vitiate I'd happliy discuss it with you, I think that regardless of which version of Sidious it is, Vitiate still wins, I have to disagree. Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious. Showdown of Emperors, who is the master here... Don't forget to like the video and subscribe to see more content! He's also ridiculously fast. He's basically a one trick pony anyone who can resist his drain is powerful enough to kill him anyone who can't resist his drain obviously dies. We know Dooku's far, far below Sidious so you can't exactly assume that Dooku's beyond Plagueis's level. No other Darth Sidious Vs Valkorion threads should be made to avoid cluttering the forum with multiple similar threads. I wouldn’t mind someone surpassing them, but I’d want to see it done in a covert fashion that was built over multiple films. 2126. Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever to live. Sidious was stated to be the most powerful ever when he was around. Interesting. Level Six. Which of these two were more powerful? Vitiate/Valkorion is pretty much all of this too. … I hope it gets the attention it deserves. Level Four. Why do you think so? 3 years ago. Did you read, and Debunk Ant's explanation for the Revan vs Vitiate event. 6 years ago. Take it as you will. Was there one that was more dangerous? Who Wins? Forum Posts. already prepared plan of taking control of the republic... for a few decades, until his own incompetence as a ruler and master got him killed. 2. starkiller who vaporised 3 people with a quick burst of his lightening then vader goes ahead and tanks this far more powerful lightening from starkiller. 3 years ago. Close. Ewoks aren't stupid, their unsolicited aid on Endor helped ensure the Rebel's victory. DE Sidious Edit: I've just noticed the valk vs sheev thread @Azronger made is supposed to be the only thread on the subject so my apologies for adding another one. Only one of which was very powerful ,Jedi master Narezz one of the jedi on the strike team was injured by 3 small turrets on hoth Seriously look how small they are Sidious would easily make just as short work of them ass vitiate did. Sidious has quotes from multiple sources that put him as the most powerful Sith in all of history, plus quotes saying he mastered all force abilities, plus he's able to use force storm which is much more deadly than Vitiates planetary destruction. Vaelias. Luke is simply much more powerful than both Sidious and Vitiate, together SIdious and Vitiate might be roughly Abeloth's power, MAYBE. Vitiate = ~ TPM Sidious Valkorian = ~ TPM Sidious . Tenebrae, Valkorion. and then killed all nine members of his Dark Council. No other Darth Sidious Vs Valkorion threads should be made to avoid cluttering the forum with multiple similar threads. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Maul knew the truth, he understood what little everyone else did. Top 10 lists always come down to personal preference just like 'who is more powerful' debates. IG. Yoda = Nigh equal to ROTS Sidious. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. 8/14/2020. Revan isnt even on obi wans level and dooku made short work of him. At the mere age of six, Tenebrae developed Force powers and learned that his true … I wouldn't say absolutely evil... if only because being evil wasn't his end goal in and of itself. Over the next … Although I would still maintain that Vitiate is more powerful over all. Is there any Validity to that?Because if there is, then perhaps that is a possible observation of the situation and how he was able to resist. vitiate was stated to be the most powerful sith ever when he was around. Depending on how close to Plagueis, TPM Sidious is, Vitiate either loses to him or definitely to ROTS Sidious. lightsaber: sidious mastered every single lightsaber form he toyed with maul and savage (bare in mind maul mastered several lightsaber forms) held his own against yoda ,out dueled luke ect vitate is literally featless with a lightsaber and it doesnt even seem he has one as in the revan novel he never uses one and picks up revans when he's about to cut revan in half. Kun is … It's stated multiple times that Sidious is the most powerful Sith in history by multiple unbiased factual quotes, and not only does he have those, [he has the showings of power to back it up.] Only DE Sidious is beating Valk. A Dark Lord of the Sith in the Order of the Sith Lords, recorded by history as the most successful who had ever lived, his deeds resulted in overthrow the ancient Republic and the noble Jedi … Followers. I'm pretty sure you can find better feats for GL all around - in terms of speed, power, everything. Sidious has flown billions of lightyears in a few months. Match Up Monday. Posted by. Palps has a fresh clone body to work with. Darth Sidious ruled the galaxy for decades and Vitiate ruled for over 1400 years. Vitiate boosted his power using rituals, and sorcery but Sidious is far stronger with the force. Exar Kun = Capped below TPM Sidious. Basically The Emperor vs. Vitiate is mentally powerful,but Sidious is the defining member of his epoch. Was there one that was more dangerous? Vitiate subdued Malak and Reven, incredible warriors nearly unmatched throughout the galaxy, and then killed all nine members of his Dark Council, took out a strike team of some of the Order's most powerful Jedi. sigmatw Morally Grey. What do you guys think? Reviews: 0. What Sidious is it? Just almost entirely evil in that he was absolutely selfish. They are for fighting against … --Taken from The Complete Visual Dictionary, When Yoda crosses sabers with the movie's arch-villain, he doesn't launch into a pinwheeling display of acrobatics, as he did against Count Dooku in Episode II. Sure, there are quotes lying around that say that Sidious was the strongest Sith to ever live... the fact that they're all out of date by years should have made their value obviously lacking, and any that attempt use them foolish enough to ignore because the're obviously impartial. But first, he would need his own apprentice. Level Two. Valkorion would solo continents full of Sidious. then revan we don't know the circumstances of it or how revan was originally turned by vitiate but we know in the revan novel he is able to resist vitiate so either revan was far from his prime or there was some other circumstance like revan was weakened or vitiate had help in which case the feat isnt impressive enough to be usable in this discussion. Sidious is more powerful than Vitiate. the battle takes place on endor so all the little ewoks can get fried by stray lightning, Who takes this in a battle of the Emperors? Forum Posts. Don't get me wrong, Sidious is also incredibly formidable, but for the most part, not formidable enough. Sidious accomplished what the Sith wanted. this shows just how much more ridiculously powerful sidious lightening is than vitiates. So, yeah. Vitiate/Valkorion vs Sidious. We know he's pretty much always growing in power. (This doesn't change your analysis of the fight at all, I agree with all that stuff, this is just me musing on stuff). A good feats thread on Palpy and Vitiate. Sidious vs Vitiate STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > STAR WARS Discussion Sidious vs Vitiate Reply. Neither of which are even close to top tier force users. It also depends on how much power Vitiate gained in the like nine hundred years between the novel and the Nathema ritual. Posted by. Tenebrae. By their feats, Vitiate. Vitiate/Valkorion vs Sidious. Overpowering the will of a ton of strong force users is something, but he was defeated in a similar (but inferior) way like DE Sidious. Exar Kun = ROTJ Sidious Vitiate = ~ TPM Sidious Valkorian = ~ TPM Sidious . meanwhile sidious lightening was able to instantly kill an entire battalion of stormtroopers. As a side note, I don't know how much the whole "sever force" thing goes as far as someone like Sidious, but that's a thing that he was talented at. Take it as you will. No matter which of his many names you know him by, Lord Vitiate was one of the most powerful Force-sensitive beings to ever live. Vitiatewas the Emperor of the Sith for over a millennium during the Old Republic era, reconstructing it after the Great Hyperspace War. … Sidious has better feats, he's clearly faster(as shown by revan vs vitiate), and the notion vitiate can somehow end this before sabers become a factor is ridiculous. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. So yeah sidious is more powerful than vitiate. 0. Vitiate 25% . Wiki Points. They've both killed their fair share of planets, I think, but Vitiate managed to harness all the death and destruction on a planet full of Sith Lords to grant himself immortality. Sidious is more powerful than Vitiate. On a tangent, where does Darth Nihilus fit into the powerscale of famous Sith asskickers? get reddit premium. Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious on Fri 10 Jan 2020 - 11:29 It's almost as though I was referring to more than one person when I said "all have some pretty great feats". I hold RotJ Sidious at Exar Kun level and Valk is comfortably above Kun. Poll Grandmaster Yoda Vs. Emperor Vitiate (51 votes) Yoda 75% . Page 1 of 58: 1: 2 3: 11: 51 > Last » Shokzman: 02.15.2012 , 11:48 PM | #1: Quote. 3 Germanicus. "Rob Coleman wanted Yoda to feel the power of his enemy," says Wheless, "like a force he's never dealt with before." Sith Emperor. Re: Valkorion vs Darth Sidious (ROTJ) on November 13th 2020, 12:21 pm. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Disney Canon Respect Threads 5 Legends/EU Respect Threads 6 Others 7 References Emperor Sheev Palpatine, secretly the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Sidious, was the last Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic, the first and only emperor of the Galactic Empire, and arguably the most powerful Sith Lord in the galaxy's history. Follow 3700. Force Power Users - Ranking: 1. I think vitiate would easily dominate Sidious before turning him into a mindless puppet. Match Up Monday. Simple. level 1 Basically The Emperor vs. Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever to live. Vitiate has, among other things, been referred to as the "most powerful force user in the mythos,". By the way: it was Darth Tenebrous. Tenebraethe Sith Lord Darth Vitiate who was known to his reconstituted Sith Empire as the Sith Emperor and to his Eternal Empire as Valkorionwas an ancient dark side entity of enormous power who manipulated galactic affairs for 1,500 years. Wiki Points. “Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history.” --Taken from The New Essential Chronology “"The Rebels were turning out to be more troublesome than many had expected. Green Lantern simply has better feats than Sidious. The entire point of the Rule of 2 is that Sidious is supposed to be far, far more powerful than the old Sith because it's been an unbroken chain of student surpassing master, so I can see where that's coming from. Born to farmers on the planet Medriass in 5113 BBY, Tenebraewas always unnatural, having eyes as black as space and never displaying emotion. Without them, we'd all be speaking German right now. watch here you see several non force users get right back up with no signs of injury for those on mobile go to 1:11:41 .meanwhile in the lords of the sith novel sidious (while holding back) casually crushs a heavy fighter with the force (bare in mind just its shields were far to strong for infantry missiles to damage). Vitiate = Capped below TPM Sidious. mental attacks: doesn't matter who has the advantage neither are going to be able to do anything to the other mentally as they are both to strong. Forum Posts. neither will just stand there while the other prepares a ritual. It's highly unlikely that Sidious just Vitiate reincarnate, but it would be a neat explanation. Though none have ever effectively used the ability on anyone of any not despite them both having plenty of opportunities to so neither would be able to drain the other. You are indeed where you belong. (http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/3526018-2721837233-26681.jpg) Anyone who tells you Vitiate is stronger is someone who's knowledge on Sidious isn't very large. I always see top 10 dark side users lists and such and most of the time, people say Sidious is #1, is he really more powerful than the Immortal Emperor? You can comment on aptitude in a particular area of the Force, but unless you have a way of objectively measuring their abilities, it just turns into a popularity contest. ... Lord Vitiate vs. Darth Sidious (self.whowouldwin) submitted 5 years ago by Rambo7112. deactivated-5ac4e862bd47b. Archived . Followers. 3 Lord Vitiate. EU i feel the movie sidious didn't show the power he could. Some potential starting points of discussion: Tenebrae at 13 years of age, just before meeting Marka Ragnos. Vaelias. Darth Sidious was the fulfillment of that prophecy, capable of exacting the Sith's revenge on the Jedi for having nearly eradicated the practitioners of … Showdown of Emperors, who is the master here... Don't forget to like the video and subscribe to see more content! Any updated opinions or new insights should be posted here. Sidious is the more "realistic" version. Vitiate has nuked a galaxy. So comparing Talzin to a Mortis being when she was barely Sidious level seems pointless no? I think that regardless of which version of Sidious it is, Vitiate still wins. Star Wars is an American epic space opera franchise, created by George Lucas and centered around a film series that began with the eponymous 1977 movie. He wouldn't even need the force to kill him. Why do you think so? As much as I love SW legends, I personally hate Vitiate because he is just a blatant, lazy copy of Sidious. Only DE Sidious is beating Valk. Palpatine corrupted the entire Jedi Order, blitzed three high level Jedi Masters, defeated Yoda, defeated Galen as soon as he got serious, subdued Vader multiple times, defeated Dark Empire Luke, and could've beat Windu with his force lightning. Which of these two were more powerful? Id say it's objectively right to say Sidious is stronger. Sidious is also more powerful, period, so his victory seems assured, here. Press J to jump to the feed. (edited … Sidious has enormous Force knowledge and mastery of his own to counter Vitiate's,and the basic combat falls squarely in Papa Palpy's favor. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, several get hit but none collapse till 2:47 when he hits them a second time, Seriously look how small they are and they are standard turrets yet she was powerful engouh to survive a blast of vitiate lightening, starkiller who vaporised 3 people with a quick burst of his lightening, far more powerful lightening from starkiller, watch here you see several non force users get right back up with no signs of injury for those on mobile go to 1:11:41, scourge tells the hero of tython that vitiate tricked those sith into performing the ritual that killed them, I made my own comment giving the reasons sidious woudl beat vitiate. Because sidious did what they could not, and you highly underestimate the power of sidious. The Emperor. Vs. Sidious as of ROTJ. Well due to the ambiguity of whether or not Vitiate … needless to say if at any point sidious gets close enough to use his saber vitate is dead. He does ridiculously crazy shit in the EU, and has knowledge of things Vitiate/Valkorion has never even thought about. rituals: i'll give vitiate the edge here wont bother explaining why as rituals are useless in a 1v1 because they require multiple people and/or a lot of time to perform. Sidious needs/uses technology to kill planets. Vitiate could be MVP or he could lose to both depending upon the above. this also explains why neither have ever used a ritual mid fight. DE Palpatine/Darth Sidious Respect Thread By ShootingNova December 25, 2014 69 Comments My final Palpatine respect thread, the final part of my series of Darth Sidious respect threads. Ergo, Sidious's dueling feats still translate to his combative Force mastery, which far exceeds that of Vitiate. He beat or contented with the very best force users in history. NotAA3 . This is the Battle of the Emperors. Ultimately it doesn't change to much in my view. Palpatine came back from the dead with every single known and unknown force talent, could summon force space storms and numb the minds of a planet. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/3526018-2721837233-26681.jpg. Regardless, Luke … Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious. Lord Vitiate at 113 years of age, prior to consuming Medriaas. Vs. Sidious as of ROTJ. The … It's stated multiple times that Sidious is the most powerful Sith in history by multiple unbiased factual quotes, and not only does he have those, [he has the showings of power to back it up.] 0. Follow 5311. He is the ruler of two Empires and uses the Force to annihilate planets. I think Vitiate wins. NewGuy01. Dark Lord. Both canon and Legends feats applyBattle takes place on neutral ground Can Vitiate win, or surpass Sidious with his KOTFE fea Wiki Points. 0. 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Star Wars > Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe > Star Wars Versus Forum > Vitiate vs ROTS Sidious. Vader = At best a threat to ROTS/ANH Sidious but vastly below him by ROTJ. Literally millions. Sidious's feats (at this point):-Defeated Yoda-Defeated Mace Windu-Assassinated Darth Plagues-Simultaneously defeated Maul and Savage Opress-Masked his dark nature from the Jedi Council for years Vitiate's feats:-Ripped the … Born in 5113 BBY as the illegitimate Sith son of Lord Dramath in the Old Sith Empire, Tenebrae carved a path of destruction across the … New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. In term's of raw power and skill Vitiate should be far greater than any other because of the simple fact that he's lived longer than any other before and after. Born to farmers on the planet Medriass in 5113 BBY, Tenebrae was always unnatural, having eyes as black as space and never displaying emotion. The Emperors showdown! Darth Sidious ruled the galaxy for decades and Vitiate ruled for over 1400 years. He's never used it in a fight. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! 0. Page 2 of 2 • 1, 2. As a side note, I don't know how much the whole "sever force" thing goes as far as someone like Sidious, but that's a thing that he was talented at. I'm rather unfamiliar with this but I've seen posts on the internet (most trusted place on earth clearly) that Revan's resistance to Vitiate was aided by the spirit of Meetra Surik. Both are at the peak . Rules. immortality: Vitiate needed to feed of the deaths of the 10,000 - 100,000 of people who died during the big battle at the end of the shadow of revan expansion meanwhile sidious could return whenever he wanted (though he did originally need some ancient sith to teach him how to do it). Follow 26473. At the mere age of six, Tenebrae developed Force powers and learned that his true father was the ruler of Medriass, Sith Lord … Yes, yes, yes. Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious on Fri 10 Jan 2020 - 11:29 It's almost as though I was referring to more than one person when I said "all have some pretty great feats". Yes, it sounds just like Sidious’ scheme, but the difference would be that we wouldn’t see it coming like we did with the OT and the PT. He is the immortal emperor, and despite it not being canon, I think he surpasses Sidious no question. Re: Valkorion vs Darth Sidious (ROTJ) on November 13th 2020, 12:21 pm. I just don't see how vitiate would win this without getting lucky. Revan, Malek, and the council aren't as strong as them. So if sidious uses tk at any point (bare in mind its the force ability he uses most except for lightening) vitiate is dead. Dec 14, 2019 #39 Murazor said: Sorry if I come across as too forceful. Personally from what i've seen of Sidious and what I've read of Vitiate I think there would be no contest. Share. Overall sidious is winning this if he gets in close vitiate has no chance, and even with the force he has a huge edge. The statement that many people fall back on when People argue against Sidious being the most … :D My Top 30 A.I. Regarding your point about there being 'perhaps' another circumatance as to Revan's seduction to the darkside in comparison to his later resistance. Divide that by 4 and you get 236,677,140 Seconds. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting. another good comparison is the fact vader instantly killed 12 people with a force push and we all know vader is nowhere near as powerful as sidious. Personally from what i've seen of Sidious and what I've read of Vitiate I think there would be no contest. Most people don't realize it, but Sidious was a lot more powerful than Vitiate ever was. By himself, he could not hope to defeat the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy had ever known. Scourge says in swtor vitiate tricked them into joining the ritual so he didn't dominate them all, Vitiate subdued Malak and Reven, incredible warriors nearly unmatched throughout the galaxy. Therefore, Valkorion is at least 236,677,140 times more powerful than Sidious. Close. Jan 8, 2020 #26 Ertwin said: As poor Mace Windu found out. In this video I am pitting Darth Sidious up against Darth Vitiate. [FP]=900 Anakin Skywalker (Full Potential) 2. Valkorion (like other SW EU villains) is much too mighty. The Emperor. Suspect Insight Forums :: Star Wars Versus. If vitiate was able to dominate or even effect sidious mentally at all why didnt he ever dominate anyone like meetra surik ,scourge (when he thought he had betrayed him) ,the hero of tython or any other playable character in swtor ,heck even kira as a padawan broke free form vitiates control in a few minutes and vitiate had a very strong connection to her. It creates so many plot holes if vitiate was that powerful with mental attacks. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. If you want to go that way he co-opted his master's (who, personally, was far more worthy in that he had almost achieved his own method of immortality before being killed in a drunken slumber. I doubt that 3 Yoda level characters are losing to ROTJ Sidious tbh. 11. KingofBlades. 356. Sith Archivist wrote: DARK LORD OF THE SITH wrote: Sith Archivist wrote:Valk wins. Probably Sidious, we have better combat feats for him. Say that Vitiate drained Ziost in 4 seconds. After killing his father at age 10 with only a thought, Tenebrae was mentored by Marka Ragnos and soon after granted the title of Sith Lord. telekinesis probably the most versatile and most useful and most commonly used force ability in star wars sidious outclasses vitiate with it. I guess to back what I'm saying here's Palpatine's RT: The Phantom Menace, Revenge of the Sith, Return of the Jedi, Dark Empire. Vitiate was overpowered to be honest. If he could he'd of done it to revan , the hero of tython or arcann, I made my own comment giving the reasons sidious woudl beat vitiate I'd happliy discuss it with you, I think that regardless of which version of Sidious it is, Vitiate still wins, I have to disagree. Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious. Showdown of Emperors, who is the master here... Don't forget to like the video and subscribe to see more content! He's also ridiculously fast. He's basically a one trick pony anyone who can resist his drain is powerful enough to kill him anyone who can't resist his drain obviously dies. We know Dooku's far, far below Sidious so you can't exactly assume that Dooku's beyond Plagueis's level. No other Darth Sidious Vs Valkorion threads should be made to avoid cluttering the forum with multiple similar threads. I wouldn’t mind someone surpassing them, but I’d want to see it done in a covert fashion that was built over multiple films. 2126. Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever to live. Sidious was stated to be the most powerful ever when he was around. Interesting. Level Six. Which of these two were more powerful? Vitiate/Valkorion is pretty much all of this too. … I hope it gets the attention it deserves. Level Four. Why do you think so? 3 years ago. Did you read, and Debunk Ant's explanation for the Revan vs Vitiate event. 6 years ago. Take it as you will. Was there one that was more dangerous? Who Wins? Forum Posts. already prepared plan of taking control of the republic... for a few decades, until his own incompetence as a ruler and master got him killed. 2. starkiller who vaporised 3 people with a quick burst of his lightening then vader goes ahead and tanks this far more powerful lightening from starkiller. 3 years ago. Close. Ewoks aren't stupid, their unsolicited aid on Endor helped ensure the Rebel's victory. DE Sidious Edit: I've just noticed the valk vs sheev thread @Azronger made is supposed to be the only thread on the subject so my apologies for adding another one. Only one of which was very powerful ,Jedi master Narezz one of the jedi on the strike team was injured by 3 small turrets on hoth Seriously look how small they are Sidious would easily make just as short work of them ass vitiate did. Sidious has quotes from multiple sources that put him as the most powerful Sith in all of history, plus quotes saying he mastered all force abilities, plus he's able to use force storm which is much more deadly than Vitiates planetary destruction. Vaelias. Luke is simply much more powerful than both Sidious and Vitiate, together SIdious and Vitiate might be roughly Abeloth's power, MAYBE. Vitiate = ~ TPM Sidious Valkorian = ~ TPM Sidious . Tenebrae, Valkorion. and then killed all nine members of his Dark Council. No other Darth Sidious Vs Valkorion threads should be made to avoid cluttering the forum with multiple similar threads. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Maul knew the truth, he understood what little everyone else did. Top 10 lists always come down to personal preference just like 'who is more powerful' debates. IG. Yoda = Nigh equal to ROTS Sidious. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. 8/14/2020. Revan isnt even on obi wans level and dooku made short work of him. At the mere age of six, Tenebrae developed Force powers and learned that his true … I wouldn't say absolutely evil... if only because being evil wasn't his end goal in and of itself. Over the next … Although I would still maintain that Vitiate is more powerful over all. Is there any Validity to that?Because if there is, then perhaps that is a possible observation of the situation and how he was able to resist. vitiate was stated to be the most powerful sith ever when he was around. Depending on how close to Plagueis, TPM Sidious is, Vitiate either loses to him or definitely to ROTS Sidious. lightsaber: sidious mastered every single lightsaber form he toyed with maul and savage (bare in mind maul mastered several lightsaber forms) held his own against yoda ,out dueled luke ect vitate is literally featless with a lightsaber and it doesnt even seem he has one as in the revan novel he never uses one and picks up revans when he's about to cut revan in half. Kun is … It's stated multiple times that Sidious is the most powerful Sith in history by multiple unbiased factual quotes, and not only does he have those, [he has the showings of power to back it up.] Only DE Sidious is beating Valk. A Dark Lord of the Sith in the Order of the Sith Lords, recorded by history as the most successful who had ever lived, his deeds resulted in overthrow the ancient Republic and the noble Jedi … Followers. I'm pretty sure you can find better feats for GL all around - in terms of speed, power, everything. Sidious has flown billions of lightyears in a few months. Match Up Monday. Posted by. Palps has a fresh clone body to work with. Darth Sidious ruled the galaxy for decades and Vitiate ruled for over 1400 years. Vitiate boosted his power using rituals, and sorcery but Sidious is far stronger with the force. Exar Kun = Capped below TPM Sidious. Basically The Emperor vs. Vitiate is mentally powerful,but Sidious is the defining member of his epoch. Was there one that was more dangerous? Vitiate subdued Malak and Reven, incredible warriors nearly unmatched throughout the galaxy, and then killed all nine members of his Dark Council, took out a strike team of some of the Order's most powerful Jedi. sigmatw Morally Grey. What do you guys think? Reviews: 0. What Sidious is it? Just almost entirely evil in that he was absolutely selfish. They are for fighting against … --Taken from The Complete Visual Dictionary, When Yoda crosses sabers with the movie's arch-villain, he doesn't launch into a pinwheeling display of acrobatics, as he did against Count Dooku in Episode II. Sure, there are quotes lying around that say that Sidious was the strongest Sith to ever live... the fact that they're all out of date by years should have made their value obviously lacking, and any that attempt use them foolish enough to ignore because the're obviously impartial. But first, he would need his own apprentice. Level Two. Valkorion would solo continents full of Sidious. then revan we don't know the circumstances of it or how revan was originally turned by vitiate but we know in the revan novel he is able to resist vitiate so either revan was far from his prime or there was some other circumstance like revan was weakened or vitiate had help in which case the feat isnt impressive enough to be usable in this discussion. Sidious is more powerful than Vitiate. the battle takes place on endor so all the little ewoks can get fried by stray lightning, Who takes this in a battle of the Emperors? Forum Posts. Don't get me wrong, Sidious is also incredibly formidable, but for the most part, not formidable enough. Sidious accomplished what the Sith wanted. this shows just how much more ridiculously powerful sidious lightening is than vitiates. So, yeah. Vitiate/Valkorion vs Sidious. We know he's pretty much always growing in power. (This doesn't change your analysis of the fight at all, I agree with all that stuff, this is just me musing on stuff). A good feats thread on Palpy and Vitiate. Sidious vs Vitiate STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > STAR WARS Discussion Sidious vs Vitiate Reply. Neither of which are even close to top tier force users. It also depends on how much power Vitiate gained in the like nine hundred years between the novel and the Nathema ritual. Posted by. Tenebrae. By their feats, Vitiate. Vitiate/Valkorion vs Sidious. Overpowering the will of a ton of strong force users is something, but he was defeated in a similar (but inferior) way like DE Sidious. Exar Kun = ROTJ Sidious Vitiate = ~ TPM Sidious Valkorian = ~ TPM Sidious . meanwhile sidious lightening was able to instantly kill an entire battalion of stormtroopers. As a side note, I don't know how much the whole "sever force" thing goes as far as someone like Sidious, but that's a thing that he was talented at. Take it as you will. No matter which of his many names you know him by, Lord Vitiate was one of the most powerful Force-sensitive beings to ever live. Vitiatewas the Emperor of the Sith for over a millennium during the Old Republic era, reconstructing it after the Great Hyperspace War. … Sidious has better feats, he's clearly faster(as shown by revan vs vitiate), and the notion vitiate can somehow end this before sabers become a factor is ridiculous. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. So yeah sidious is more powerful than vitiate. 0. Vitiate 25% . Wiki Points. They've both killed their fair share of planets, I think, but Vitiate managed to harness all the death and destruction on a planet full of Sith Lords to grant himself immortality. Sidious is more powerful than Vitiate. On a tangent, where does Darth Nihilus fit into the powerscale of famous Sith asskickers? get reddit premium. Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious on Fri 10 Jan 2020 - 11:29 It's almost as though I was referring to more than one person when I said "all have some pretty great feats". I hold RotJ Sidious at Exar Kun level and Valk is comfortably above Kun. Poll Grandmaster Yoda Vs. Emperor Vitiate (51 votes) Yoda 75% . Page 1 of 58: 1: 2 3: 11: 51 > Last » Shokzman: 02.15.2012 , 11:48 PM | #1: Quote. 3 Germanicus. "Rob Coleman wanted Yoda to feel the power of his enemy," says Wheless, "like a force he's never dealt with before." Sith Emperor. Re: Valkorion vs Darth Sidious (ROTJ) on November 13th 2020, 12:21 pm. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Disney Canon Respect Threads 5 Legends/EU Respect Threads 6 Others 7 References Emperor Sheev Palpatine, secretly the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Sidious, was the last Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic, the first and only emperor of the Galactic Empire, and arguably the most powerful Sith Lord in the galaxy's history. Follow 3700. Force Power Users - Ranking: 1. I think vitiate would easily dominate Sidious before turning him into a mindless puppet. Match Up Monday. Simple. level 1 Basically The Emperor vs. Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever to live. Vitiate has, among other things, been referred to as the "most powerful force user in the mythos,". By the way: it was Darth Tenebrous. Tenebraethe Sith Lord Darth Vitiate who was known to his reconstituted Sith Empire as the Sith Emperor and to his Eternal Empire as Valkorionwas an ancient dark side entity of enormous power who manipulated galactic affairs for 1,500 years. Wiki Points. “Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history.” --Taken from The New Essential Chronology “"The Rebels were turning out to be more troublesome than many had expected. Green Lantern simply has better feats than Sidious. The entire point of the Rule of 2 is that Sidious is supposed to be far, far more powerful than the old Sith because it's been an unbroken chain of student surpassing master, so I can see where that's coming from. Born to farmers on the planet Medriass in 5113 BBY, Tenebraewas always unnatural, having eyes as black as space and never displaying emotion. Without them, we'd all be speaking German right now. watch here you see several non force users get right back up with no signs of injury for those on mobile go to 1:11:41 .meanwhile in the lords of the sith novel sidious (while holding back) casually crushs a heavy fighter with the force (bare in mind just its shields were far to strong for infantry missiles to damage). Vitiate = Capped below TPM Sidious. mental attacks: doesn't matter who has the advantage neither are going to be able to do anything to the other mentally as they are both to strong. Forum Posts. neither will just stand there while the other prepares a ritual. It's highly unlikely that Sidious just Vitiate reincarnate, but it would be a neat explanation. Though none have ever effectively used the ability on anyone of any not despite them both having plenty of opportunities to so neither would be able to drain the other. You are indeed where you belong. (http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/3526018-2721837233-26681.jpg) Anyone who tells you Vitiate is stronger is someone who's knowledge on Sidious isn't very large. I always see top 10 dark side users lists and such and most of the time, people say Sidious is #1, is he really more powerful than the Immortal Emperor? You can comment on aptitude in a particular area of the Force, but unless you have a way of objectively measuring their abilities, it just turns into a popularity contest. ... Lord Vitiate vs. Darth Sidious (self.whowouldwin) submitted 5 years ago by Rambo7112. deactivated-5ac4e862bd47b. Archived . Followers. 3 Lord Vitiate. EU i feel the movie sidious didn't show the power he could. Some potential starting points of discussion: Tenebrae at 13 years of age, just before meeting Marka Ragnos. Vaelias. Darth Sidious was the fulfillment of that prophecy, capable of exacting the Sith's revenge on the Jedi for having nearly eradicated the practitioners of … Showdown of Emperors, who is the master here... Don't forget to like the video and subscribe to see more content! Any updated opinions or new insights should be posted here. Sidious is the more "realistic" version. Vitiate has nuked a galaxy. So comparing Talzin to a Mortis being when she was barely Sidious level seems pointless no? I think that regardless of which version of Sidious it is, Vitiate still wins. Star Wars is an American epic space opera franchise, created by George Lucas and centered around a film series that began with the eponymous 1977 movie. He wouldn't even need the force to kill him. Why do you think so? As much as I love SW legends, I personally hate Vitiate because he is just a blatant, lazy copy of Sidious. Only DE Sidious is beating Valk. Palpatine corrupted the entire Jedi Order, blitzed three high level Jedi Masters, defeated Yoda, defeated Galen as soon as he got serious, subdued Vader multiple times, defeated Dark Empire Luke, and could've beat Windu with his force lightning. Which of these two were more powerful? Id say it's objectively right to say Sidious is stronger. Sidious is also more powerful, period, so his victory seems assured, here. Press J to jump to the feed. (edited … Sidious has enormous Force knowledge and mastery of his own to counter Vitiate's,and the basic combat falls squarely in Papa Palpy's favor. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, several get hit but none collapse till 2:47 when he hits them a second time, Seriously look how small they are and they are standard turrets yet she was powerful engouh to survive a blast of vitiate lightening, starkiller who vaporised 3 people with a quick burst of his lightening, far more powerful lightening from starkiller, watch here you see several non force users get right back up with no signs of injury for those on mobile go to 1:11:41, scourge tells the hero of tython that vitiate tricked those sith into performing the ritual that killed them, I made my own comment giving the reasons sidious woudl beat vitiate. Because sidious did what they could not, and you highly underestimate the power of sidious. The Emperor. Vs. Sidious as of ROTJ. Well due to the ambiguity of whether or not Vitiate … needless to say if at any point sidious gets close enough to use his saber vitate is dead. He does ridiculously crazy shit in the EU, and has knowledge of things Vitiate/Valkorion has never even thought about. rituals: i'll give vitiate the edge here wont bother explaining why as rituals are useless in a 1v1 because they require multiple people and/or a lot of time to perform. Sidious needs/uses technology to kill planets. Vitiate could be MVP or he could lose to both depending upon the above. this also explains why neither have ever used a ritual mid fight. DE Palpatine/Darth Sidious Respect Thread By ShootingNova December 25, 2014 69 Comments My final Palpatine respect thread, the final part of my series of Darth Sidious respect threads. Ergo, Sidious's dueling feats still translate to his combative Force mastery, which far exceeds that of Vitiate. He beat or contented with the very best force users in history. NotAA3 . This is the Battle of the Emperors. Ultimately it doesn't change to much in my view. Palpatine came back from the dead with every single known and unknown force talent, could summon force space storms and numb the minds of a planet. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/3526018-2721837233-26681.jpg. Regardless, Luke … Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious. Lord Vitiate at 113 years of age, prior to consuming Medriaas. Vs. Sidious as of ROTJ. The … It's stated multiple times that Sidious is the most powerful Sith in history by multiple unbiased factual quotes, and not only does he have those, [he has the showings of power to back it up.] 0. Follow 5311. He is the ruler of two Empires and uses the Force to annihilate planets. I think Vitiate wins. NewGuy01. Dark Lord. Both canon and Legends feats applyBattle takes place on neutral ground Can Vitiate win, or surpass Sidious with his KOTFE fea Wiki Points. 0. 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Vitiate subdued Malak and Reven, incredible warriors nearly unmatched throughout the galaxy, and then killed all nine members of his Dark Council, took out a strike team of some of the Order's most powerful Jedi. Edit: added a few sources to some of my claims. The rule of two doesn’t go back forever, and during Vitiate’s time, there are certainly more air than 2. GXrevs06. vitiate lacks any sort of defence to even survive any tk attacks from sidious, as vitate was knocked back by revans force push a guy who's force push couldnt even badly hurt none force users. Both canon and Legends feats applyBattle takes place on neutral ground Can Vitiate win, or surpass Sidious with his KOTFE fea RotS Sidious 3. Some potential starting points of discussion: Tenebrae at 13 years of age, just before meeting Marka Ragnos. Luke was able to somwhat compete with Abeloth who wrecked the … RotS, RotJ, or Dark Empire? on January 9th 2020, 6:37 pm. Which Sidious almost failed at.) While I like the idea of seeing new sith in the upcoming canon material I think they should keep Sidious and Vader the most powerful so that it doesn't undermine the effects of the original movies. I believe RotS and DE Sidious could fight and defeat Vitiate, Vitiate has, among other things, been referred to as the "most powerful force user in the mythos," and "the embodiment of the Dark Side of the Force.". Darth Vitiate vs Darth Sidious. He still hasn't passed Sidious up in power. I guess it depends on just how much of a physical god they've made Vitiate into. The David Copperfield of Sith. Go. Sidious didn't even get pass a century, nor did utilize rituals to permanently buff himself as Vitiate did. TPM Sidious 2. Dolph. The Sith Emperor … Vader imagined the power that could be his if he crushed Palpatine and established his own rule over the Empire. --Taken from Vader: The Ultimate Guide, Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history. took out a strike team of some of the Order's most powerful Jedi. Want some free stuff? Instead, Yoda faces the dark side's fury, channeled by the most powerful Sith Lord in history. Vitiate was the Emperor of the Sith for over a millennium during the Old Republic era, reconstructing it after the Great Hyperspace War. Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious… Who Wins? before you argue vitiate dominated 8000 sith lords they willingly joined the ritual scourge tells the hero of tython that vitiate tricked those sith into performing the ritual that killed them. Life drain: Sidious has drained byss the second most populated planet in the galaxy (second to coruscant of cause) vitate drained a planet with a population in the millions with a ritual and the help of 8000 sith lords scourge even says when he first meets the jedi council in swtor that he tricked those sith intop performing the ritual with him, sidious didn't need a ritual or help he did it by himself. RotJ Sidious 5. He was born absolutely evil. 1. We don't know how or if he had help and none on the dark council at that time have any feats. Vitiate transcended and became an existence and became an Entity more akin to the idea of the Abrahamic God than to a human, while Sidious remained a frail old man. I think vitiate would easily dominate Sidious before turning … Vitiate boosted his power using rituals, and sorcery but Sidious is far stronger with the force. Here we go: While Sidious‘ lightning could destroy surfaces of planets, it really doesn’t match the intensity and potential hellfire like heat of Vitiate’s Lightning. Grandmaster Luke Skywalker vs Emperor Vitiate - Force Battle deactivated-5e8a1f5fafc4e. Twin sabers are not for fighting Jedi. Born into … Sith Archivist wrote: DARK LORD OF THE SITH wrote: Sith Archivist wrote:Valk wins. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Tenebrae—the Sith Lord Darth Vitiate who was known to his reconstituted Sith Empire as the Sith Emperor and to his Eternal Empire as Valkorion—was an ancient dark side entity of enormous power who manipulated galactic affairs for 1,500 years. He understood and surpassed every technique the Jedi had, and mastered every secrets of the Sith as well as likely mastering every lightsaber form. Darth Sidious VS Vitiate Thread starter Vitiate; Start date Jan 3, 2020; Prev. Vitiate is still a worse duelist than Sidious, and considering their roughly equal combat force power that's all he needs for a win. 3 months ago. whowouldwin join leave 258,452 readers. TFU Sidious 4. Some people want this duel.. now you have it ! i'm not arguing anything i'm asking who would win that's it i didn't bet on either horse just thought it'd be a cool fight. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. ( http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/3526018-2721837233-26681.jpg ) Anyone who tells you Vitiate … Level Three. When comparing how many seconds are in 30 years, you get 946,708,560 Seconds. He understood and surpassed every technique the Jedi had, and mastered every secrets of the Sith as well as likely mastering every lightsaber form. ... Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. But I'm not well versed in the whole Star Wars Lore. on December 9th 2019, 6:19 am . Born in 5113 BBY as the illegitimate Sith son of Lord Dramath in the Old Sith Empire, Tenebrae carved a path of destruction across the … Darth Vitiate vs Darth Sidious. High Council - The Curator. Re: Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorion VS. Sheev Palpatine/Darth Sidious. --Taken from Insider #86: Yoda's Right Arm. KMC Forums > Star Wars > Star Wars: Literature & Expanded Universe > Star Wars Versus Forum > Vitiate vs ROTS Sidious. Vader = At best a threat to ROTS/ANH Sidious but vastly below him by ROTJ. Literally millions. Sidious's feats (at this point):-Defeated Yoda-Defeated Mace Windu-Assassinated Darth Plagues-Simultaneously defeated Maul and Savage Opress-Masked his dark nature from the Jedi Council for years Vitiate's feats:-Ripped the … Born in 5113 BBY as the illegitimate Sith son of Lord Dramath in the Old Sith Empire, Tenebrae carved a path of destruction across the … New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. In term's of raw power and skill Vitiate should be far greater than any other because of the simple fact that he's lived longer than any other before and after. Born to farmers on the planet Medriass in 5113 BBY, Tenebrae was always unnatural, having eyes as black as space and never displaying emotion. The Emperors showdown! Darth Sidious ruled the galaxy for decades and Vitiate ruled for over 1400 years. He's never used it in a fight. Come join our discussions, post your own battles and kick some ass! 0. Page 2 of 2 • 1, 2. As a side note, I don't know how much the whole "sever force" thing goes as far as someone like Sidious, but that's a thing that he was talented at. I'm rather unfamiliar with this but I've seen posts on the internet (most trusted place on earth clearly) that Revan's resistance to Vitiate was aided by the spirit of Meetra Surik. Both are at the peak . Rules. immortality: Vitiate needed to feed of the deaths of the 10,000 - 100,000 of people who died during the big battle at the end of the shadow of revan expansion meanwhile sidious could return whenever he wanted (though he did originally need some ancient sith to teach him how to do it). Follow 26473. At the mere age of six, Tenebrae developed Force powers and learned that his true father was the ruler of Medriass, Sith Lord … Yes, yes, yes. Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious on Fri 10 Jan 2020 - 11:29 It's almost as though I was referring to more than one person when I said "all have some pretty great feats". Yes, it sounds just like Sidious’ scheme, but the difference would be that we wouldn’t see it coming like we did with the OT and the PT. He is the immortal emperor, and despite it not being canon, I think he surpasses Sidious no question. Re: Valkorion vs Darth Sidious (ROTJ) on November 13th 2020, 12:21 pm. I just don't see how vitiate would win this without getting lucky. Revan, Malek, and the council aren't as strong as them. So if sidious uses tk at any point (bare in mind its the force ability he uses most except for lightening) vitiate is dead. Dec 14, 2019 #39 Murazor said: Sorry if I come across as too forceful. Personally from what i've seen of Sidious and what I've read of Vitiate I think there would be no contest. Share. Overall sidious is winning this if he gets in close vitiate has no chance, and even with the force he has a huge edge. The statement that many people fall back on when People argue against Sidious being the most … :D My Top 30 A.I. Regarding your point about there being 'perhaps' another circumatance as to Revan's seduction to the darkside in comparison to his later resistance. Divide that by 4 and you get 236,677,140 Seconds. As his strength grows, his plans begin to shape the course of the galaxy, and his snares await the unsuspecting. another good comparison is the fact vader instantly killed 12 people with a force push and we all know vader is nowhere near as powerful as sidious. Personally from what i've seen of Sidious and what I've read of Vitiate I think there would be no contest. Most people don't realize it, but Sidious was a lot more powerful than Vitiate ever was. By himself, he could not hope to defeat the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy had ever known. Scourge says in swtor vitiate tricked them into joining the ritual so he didn't dominate them all, Vitiate subdued Malak and Reven, incredible warriors nearly unmatched throughout the galaxy. Therefore, Valkorion is at least 236,677,140 times more powerful than Sidious. Close. Jan 8, 2020 #26 Ertwin said: As poor Mace Windu found out. In this video I am pitting Darth Sidious up against Darth Vitiate. [FP]=900 Anakin Skywalker (Full Potential) 2. Valkorion (like other SW EU villains) is much too mighty. The Emperor. Suspect Insight Forums :: Star Wars Versus. If vitiate was able to dominate or even effect sidious mentally at all why didnt he ever dominate anyone like meetra surik ,scourge (when he thought he had betrayed him) ,the hero of tython or any other playable character in swtor ,heck even kira as a padawan broke free form vitiates control in a few minutes and vitiate had a very strong connection to her. It creates so many plot holes if vitiate was that powerful with mental attacks. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. If you want to go that way he co-opted his master's (who, personally, was far more worthy in that he had almost achieved his own method of immortality before being killed in a drunken slumber. I doubt that 3 Yoda level characters are losing to ROTJ Sidious tbh. 11. KingofBlades. 356. Sith Archivist wrote: DARK LORD OF THE SITH wrote: Sith Archivist wrote:Valk wins. Probably Sidious, we have better combat feats for him. Say that Vitiate drained Ziost in 4 seconds. After killing his father at age 10 with only a thought, Tenebrae was mentored by Marka Ragnos and soon after granted the title of Sith Lord. telekinesis probably the most versatile and most useful and most commonly used force ability in star wars sidious outclasses vitiate with it. I guess to back what I'm saying here's Palpatine's RT: The Phantom Menace, Revenge of the Sith, Return of the Jedi, Dark Empire. Vitiate was overpowered to be honest. If he could he'd of done it to revan , the hero of tython or arcann, I made my own comment giving the reasons sidious woudl beat vitiate I'd happliy discuss it with you, I think that regardless of which version of Sidious it is, Vitiate still wins, I have to disagree. Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious. Showdown of Emperors, who is the master here... Don't forget to like the video and subscribe to see more content! He's also ridiculously fast. He's basically a one trick pony anyone who can resist his drain is powerful enough to kill him anyone who can't resist his drain obviously dies. We know Dooku's far, far below Sidious so you can't exactly assume that Dooku's beyond Plagueis's level. No other Darth Sidious Vs Valkorion threads should be made to avoid cluttering the forum with multiple similar threads. I wouldn’t mind someone surpassing them, but I’d want to see it done in a covert fashion that was built over multiple films. 2126. Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever to live. Sidious was stated to be the most powerful ever when he was around. Interesting. Level Six. Which of these two were more powerful? Vitiate/Valkorion is pretty much all of this too. … I hope it gets the attention it deserves. Level Four. Why do you think so? 3 years ago. Did you read, and Debunk Ant's explanation for the Revan vs Vitiate event. 6 years ago. Take it as you will. Was there one that was more dangerous? Who Wins? Forum Posts. already prepared plan of taking control of the republic... for a few decades, until his own incompetence as a ruler and master got him killed. 2. starkiller who vaporised 3 people with a quick burst of his lightening then vader goes ahead and tanks this far more powerful lightening from starkiller. 3 years ago. Close. Ewoks aren't stupid, their unsolicited aid on Endor helped ensure the Rebel's victory. DE Sidious Edit: I've just noticed the valk vs sheev thread @Azronger made is supposed to be the only thread on the subject so my apologies for adding another one. Only one of which was very powerful ,Jedi master Narezz one of the jedi on the strike team was injured by 3 small turrets on hoth Seriously look how small they are Sidious would easily make just as short work of them ass vitiate did. Sidious has quotes from multiple sources that put him as the most powerful Sith in all of history, plus quotes saying he mastered all force abilities, plus he's able to use force storm which is much more deadly than Vitiates planetary destruction. Vaelias. Luke is simply much more powerful than both Sidious and Vitiate, together SIdious and Vitiate might be roughly Abeloth's power, MAYBE. Vitiate = ~ TPM Sidious Valkorian = ~ TPM Sidious . Tenebrae, Valkorion. and then killed all nine members of his Dark Council. No other Darth Sidious Vs Valkorion threads should be made to avoid cluttering the forum with multiple similar threads. Click to expand... Click to shrink... Maul knew the truth, he understood what little everyone else did. Top 10 lists always come down to personal preference just like 'who is more powerful' debates. IG. Yoda = Nigh equal to ROTS Sidious. If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. 8/14/2020. Revan isnt even on obi wans level and dooku made short work of him. At the mere age of six, Tenebrae developed Force powers and learned that his true … I wouldn't say absolutely evil... if only because being evil wasn't his end goal in and of itself. Over the next … Although I would still maintain that Vitiate is more powerful over all. Is there any Validity to that?Because if there is, then perhaps that is a possible observation of the situation and how he was able to resist. vitiate was stated to be the most powerful sith ever when he was around. Depending on how close to Plagueis, TPM Sidious is, Vitiate either loses to him or definitely to ROTS Sidious. lightsaber: sidious mastered every single lightsaber form he toyed with maul and savage (bare in mind maul mastered several lightsaber forms) held his own against yoda ,out dueled luke ect vitate is literally featless with a lightsaber and it doesnt even seem he has one as in the revan novel he never uses one and picks up revans when he's about to cut revan in half. Kun is … It's stated multiple times that Sidious is the most powerful Sith in history by multiple unbiased factual quotes, and not only does he have those, [he has the showings of power to back it up.] Only DE Sidious is beating Valk. A Dark Lord of the Sith in the Order of the Sith Lords, recorded by history as the most successful who had ever lived, his deeds resulted in overthrow the ancient Republic and the noble Jedi … Followers. I'm pretty sure you can find better feats for GL all around - in terms of speed, power, everything. Sidious has flown billions of lightyears in a few months. Match Up Monday. Posted by. Palps has a fresh clone body to work with. Darth Sidious ruled the galaxy for decades and Vitiate ruled for over 1400 years. Vitiate boosted his power using rituals, and sorcery but Sidious is far stronger with the force. Exar Kun = Capped below TPM Sidious. Basically The Emperor vs. Vitiate is mentally powerful,but Sidious is the defining member of his epoch. Was there one that was more dangerous? Vitiate subdued Malak and Reven, incredible warriors nearly unmatched throughout the galaxy, and then killed all nine members of his Dark Council, took out a strike team of some of the Order's most powerful Jedi. sigmatw Morally Grey. What do you guys think? Reviews: 0. What Sidious is it? Just almost entirely evil in that he was absolutely selfish. They are for fighting against … --Taken from The Complete Visual Dictionary, When Yoda crosses sabers with the movie's arch-villain, he doesn't launch into a pinwheeling display of acrobatics, as he did against Count Dooku in Episode II. Sure, there are quotes lying around that say that Sidious was the strongest Sith to ever live... the fact that they're all out of date by years should have made their value obviously lacking, and any that attempt use them foolish enough to ignore because the're obviously impartial. But first, he would need his own apprentice. Level Two. Valkorion would solo continents full of Sidious. then revan we don't know the circumstances of it or how revan was originally turned by vitiate but we know in the revan novel he is able to resist vitiate so either revan was far from his prime or there was some other circumstance like revan was weakened or vitiate had help in which case the feat isnt impressive enough to be usable in this discussion. Sidious is more powerful than Vitiate. the battle takes place on endor so all the little ewoks can get fried by stray lightning, Who takes this in a battle of the Emperors? Forum Posts. Don't get me wrong, Sidious is also incredibly formidable, but for the most part, not formidable enough. Sidious accomplished what the Sith wanted. this shows just how much more ridiculously powerful sidious lightening is than vitiates. So, yeah. Vitiate/Valkorion vs Sidious. We know he's pretty much always growing in power. (This doesn't change your analysis of the fight at all, I agree with all that stuff, this is just me musing on stuff). A good feats thread on Palpy and Vitiate. Sidious vs Vitiate STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > STAR WARS Discussion Sidious vs Vitiate Reply. Neither of which are even close to top tier force users. It also depends on how much power Vitiate gained in the like nine hundred years between the novel and the Nathema ritual. Posted by. Tenebrae. By their feats, Vitiate. Vitiate/Valkorion vs Sidious. Overpowering the will of a ton of strong force users is something, but he was defeated in a similar (but inferior) way like DE Sidious. Exar Kun = ROTJ Sidious Vitiate = ~ TPM Sidious Valkorian = ~ TPM Sidious . meanwhile sidious lightening was able to instantly kill an entire battalion of stormtroopers. As a side note, I don't know how much the whole "sever force" thing goes as far as someone like Sidious, but that's a thing that he was talented at. Take it as you will. No matter which of his many names you know him by, Lord Vitiate was one of the most powerful Force-sensitive beings to ever live. Vitiatewas the Emperor of the Sith for over a millennium during the Old Republic era, reconstructing it after the Great Hyperspace War. … Sidious has better feats, he's clearly faster(as shown by revan vs vitiate), and the notion vitiate can somehow end this before sabers become a factor is ridiculous. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. So yeah sidious is more powerful than vitiate. 0. Vitiate 25% . Wiki Points. They've both killed their fair share of planets, I think, but Vitiate managed to harness all the death and destruction on a planet full of Sith Lords to grant himself immortality. Sidious is more powerful than Vitiate. On a tangent, where does Darth Nihilus fit into the powerscale of famous Sith asskickers? get reddit premium. Re: Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious on Fri 10 Jan 2020 - 11:29 It's almost as though I was referring to more than one person when I said "all have some pretty great feats". I hold RotJ Sidious at Exar Kun level and Valk is comfortably above Kun. Poll Grandmaster Yoda Vs. Emperor Vitiate (51 votes) Yoda 75% . Page 1 of 58: 1: 2 3: 11: 51 > Last » Shokzman: 02.15.2012 , 11:48 PM | #1: Quote. 3 Germanicus. "Rob Coleman wanted Yoda to feel the power of his enemy," says Wheless, "like a force he's never dealt with before." Sith Emperor. Re: Valkorion vs Darth Sidious (ROTJ) on November 13th 2020, 12:21 pm. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Disney Canon Respect Threads 5 Legends/EU Respect Threads 6 Others 7 References Emperor Sheev Palpatine, secretly the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Sidious, was the last Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic, the first and only emperor of the Galactic Empire, and arguably the most powerful Sith Lord in the galaxy's history. Follow 3700. Force Power Users - Ranking: 1. I think vitiate would easily dominate Sidious before turning him into a mindless puppet. Match Up Monday. Simple. level 1 Basically The Emperor vs. Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever to live. Vitiate has, among other things, been referred to as the "most powerful force user in the mythos,". By the way: it was Darth Tenebrous. Tenebraethe Sith Lord Darth Vitiate who was known to his reconstituted Sith Empire as the Sith Emperor and to his Eternal Empire as Valkorionwas an ancient dark side entity of enormous power who manipulated galactic affairs for 1,500 years. Wiki Points. “Yoda went after Palpatine in the empty Senate chamber, but could not defeat the most powerful Sith Lord in history.” --Taken from The New Essential Chronology “"The Rebels were turning out to be more troublesome than many had expected. Green Lantern simply has better feats than Sidious. The entire point of the Rule of 2 is that Sidious is supposed to be far, far more powerful than the old Sith because it's been an unbroken chain of student surpassing master, so I can see where that's coming from. Born to farmers on the planet Medriass in 5113 BBY, Tenebraewas always unnatural, having eyes as black as space and never displaying emotion. Without them, we'd all be speaking German right now. watch here you see several non force users get right back up with no signs of injury for those on mobile go to 1:11:41 .meanwhile in the lords of the sith novel sidious (while holding back) casually crushs a heavy fighter with the force (bare in mind just its shields were far to strong for infantry missiles to damage). Vitiate = Capped below TPM Sidious. mental attacks: doesn't matter who has the advantage neither are going to be able to do anything to the other mentally as they are both to strong. Forum Posts. neither will just stand there while the other prepares a ritual. It's highly unlikely that Sidious just Vitiate reincarnate, but it would be a neat explanation. Though none have ever effectively used the ability on anyone of any not despite them both having plenty of opportunities to so neither would be able to drain the other. You are indeed where you belong. (http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/3526018-2721837233-26681.jpg) Anyone who tells you Vitiate is stronger is someone who's knowledge on Sidious isn't very large. I always see top 10 dark side users lists and such and most of the time, people say Sidious is #1, is he really more powerful than the Immortal Emperor? You can comment on aptitude in a particular area of the Force, but unless you have a way of objectively measuring their abilities, it just turns into a popularity contest. ... Lord Vitiate vs. Darth Sidious (self.whowouldwin) submitted 5 years ago by Rambo7112. deactivated-5ac4e862bd47b. Archived . Followers. 3 Lord Vitiate. EU i feel the movie sidious didn't show the power he could. Some potential starting points of discussion: Tenebrae at 13 years of age, just before meeting Marka Ragnos. Vaelias. Darth Sidious was the fulfillment of that prophecy, capable of exacting the Sith's revenge on the Jedi for having nearly eradicated the practitioners of … Showdown of Emperors, who is the master here... Don't forget to like the video and subscribe to see more content! Any updated opinions or new insights should be posted here. Sidious is the more "realistic" version. Vitiate has nuked a galaxy. So comparing Talzin to a Mortis being when she was barely Sidious level seems pointless no? I think that regardless of which version of Sidious it is, Vitiate still wins. Star Wars is an American epic space opera franchise, created by George Lucas and centered around a film series that began with the eponymous 1977 movie. He wouldn't even need the force to kill him. Why do you think so? As much as I love SW legends, I personally hate Vitiate because he is just a blatant, lazy copy of Sidious. Only DE Sidious is beating Valk. Palpatine corrupted the entire Jedi Order, blitzed three high level Jedi Masters, defeated Yoda, defeated Galen as soon as he got serious, subdued Vader multiple times, defeated Dark Empire Luke, and could've beat Windu with his force lightning. Which of these two were more powerful? Id say it's objectively right to say Sidious is stronger. Sidious is also more powerful, period, so his victory seems assured, here. Press J to jump to the feed. (edited … Sidious has enormous Force knowledge and mastery of his own to counter Vitiate's,and the basic combat falls squarely in Papa Palpy's favor. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, several get hit but none collapse till 2:47 when he hits them a second time, Seriously look how small they are and they are standard turrets yet she was powerful engouh to survive a blast of vitiate lightening, starkiller who vaporised 3 people with a quick burst of his lightening, far more powerful lightening from starkiller, watch here you see several non force users get right back up with no signs of injury for those on mobile go to 1:11:41, scourge tells the hero of tython that vitiate tricked those sith into performing the ritual that killed them, I made my own comment giving the reasons sidious woudl beat vitiate. Because sidious did what they could not, and you highly underestimate the power of sidious. The Emperor. Vs. Sidious as of ROTJ. Well due to the ambiguity of whether or not Vitiate … needless to say if at any point sidious gets close enough to use his saber vitate is dead. He does ridiculously crazy shit in the EU, and has knowledge of things Vitiate/Valkorion has never even thought about. rituals: i'll give vitiate the edge here wont bother explaining why as rituals are useless in a 1v1 because they require multiple people and/or a lot of time to perform. Sidious needs/uses technology to kill planets. Vitiate could be MVP or he could lose to both depending upon the above. this also explains why neither have ever used a ritual mid fight. DE Palpatine/Darth Sidious Respect Thread By ShootingNova December 25, 2014 69 Comments My final Palpatine respect thread, the final part of my series of Darth Sidious respect threads. Ergo, Sidious's dueling feats still translate to his combative Force mastery, which far exceeds that of Vitiate. He beat or contented with the very best force users in history. NotAA3 . This is the Battle of the Emperors. Ultimately it doesn't change to much in my view. Palpatine came back from the dead with every single known and unknown force talent, could summon force space storms and numb the minds of a planet. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/64880/3526018-2721837233-26681.jpg. Regardless, Luke … Revan, unchained Vaylin & SWTOR Vitiate vs ROTJ Sidious. Lord Vitiate at 113 years of age, prior to consuming Medriaas. Vs. Sidious as of ROTJ. The … It's stated multiple times that Sidious is the most powerful Sith in history by multiple unbiased factual quotes, and not only does he have those, [he has the showings of power to back it up.] 0. Follow 5311. He is the ruler of two Empires and uses the Force to annihilate planets. I think Vitiate wins. NewGuy01. Dark Lord. Both canon and Legends feats applyBattle takes place on neutral ground Can Vitiate win, or surpass Sidious with his KOTFE fea Wiki Points. 0. 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